[RuneMaster]

Originally Posted by Dark Drakan

Jack Thompson continues...

Jack Thompson takes it out on Counter-Strike - CVG.com

Someone needs to shut this man up. I really have a newfound hatred for him. Instead of looking at one thing and blaming it (the easy way) He should take into account all possibilities, cross reference those with the gunmans personality, journals etc- and then come out with a more likely possibility. It very well could have been that game, but to just say "Yeah, thats how and why he did it." without putting any thought into it is stupid.

Originally Posted by droded

Now he's just being a whiny little *****

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Tsuyu

Haha yeah, because CS is so totally realistic and all that you can train - everyone knows it is exactly how it is to fire a gun in real life as in CS.

Much like saying DOOM (in which you cannot aim up or down) was/is a good training tool for psychos.

Originally Posted by droded

Oh heres a point:

In Engand I have CCF in my school, which stands for Combined Cadet Force. They basically treat you like a soldier. Once you join, you must stay in for 2 years. Most people regret it since the weapons are surprisingly heavy for their sizes and they make you do all kinds of Army-esque training.

I dunno if you have it in America.

I think we have some programs like that. I know we have the ROTC, but they dont train you with fire arms, only amy training and etiquite, at least were I live. . . or was it air force. But a program like that would be a much more effective training tool than any game Ive played, though Im not a huge shooter fan so I havent played that many.

[Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by RuneMaster

Much like saying DOOM (in which you cannot aim up or down) was/is a good training tool for psychos.

Yeah well according to this game hater Chu trained almost SWAT-like maneuvers in CS - redicilous.

[RuneMaster]

Originally Posted by Tsuyu

Yeah well according to this game hater Chu trained almost SWAT-like maneuvers in CS - redicilous.

Exactly, it is ridiculous. If it was that simple, law enforcement agencies would use them as a tool, or use them more often. The only real reason Chu was so successful, was because he took months to plan, did not fear the consequences, and everyone at the school paniced. All those combined makes for a very successful tragedy.

[Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by RuneMaster

Exactly, it is ridiculous. If it was that simple, law enforcement agencies would use them as a tool, or use them more often. The only real reason Chu was so successful, was because he took months to plan, did not fear the consequences, and everyone at the school paniced. All those combined makes for a very successful tragedy.

There is nothing more terrifying than a man who has got nothing to lose....

[RuneMaster]

Originally Posted by Tsuyu

There is nothing more terrifying than a man who has got nothing to lose....

I agree, I mean technically he had his life to loose, but people like him just dont think that way I guess. I really think people are starting to exploit this tragedy to meet their own agendas. . .its sad really.

[droded]

What I meant by the CCF post was that - well to my knowledge - there hasn't been any school shootings in Britain...

[RuneMaster]

Originally Posted by droded

What I meant by the CCF post was that - well to my knowledge - there hasn't been any school shootings in Britain...

I knew what you meant, I just meant that it would probably be better training than a game. . . but ive never gone through it to compare or tried to put what I learn and see in games into practice. Though the strict dicipline you learn from progams such as that, would keep one from doing somthing like Virginia Tech massacre.

[droded]

Why don't insane people just kill themselves? It would be so much simpler.

[RuneMaster]

Originally Posted by droded

Why don't insane people just kill themselves? It would be so much simpler.

Cause they blame everyone else first, themselves last. Well, the type Chu was anyway.

[Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by RuneMaster

I agree, I mean technically he had his life to loose, but people like him just dont think that way I guess. I really think people are starting to exploit this tragedy to meet their own agendas. . .its sad really.

Well, obivously he didn't value his life, so you could say he had nothing to lose in the sense that he had nothing left to lose that was worth something to him.

Originally Posted by droded

Why don't insane people just kill themselves? It would be so much simpler.

Some do, slit their wrists and all. But the other ones are angry at other people, groups of people. In this case, Chu supposedly hate this classmates for being rich.

[droded]

Tsuyu you're my hero. Don't ever die.

[Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by droded

Tsuyu you're my hero. Don't ever die.

I don't plan to for quite some time, don't worry.

[Shakezulah]

I think we should have stricter gun laws. Not take them away, because then as one of the members said, we would have a HUGE problem on our hands. Stricter gun laws would help a little bit. Also raising the age limit. I think another member said that to. Pawn shops should have very detailed background checks. Anyway they said that in virginia it takes, what ten minutes to buy a gun? Thats horribly wrong. I agree with FableFreak more than Tsuyu, but Tsuyu made some very good points.

Anyway, I have a bit of advice. I follow it too.
"Its the quiet ones you have to watch out for."-Shakezulah

[droded]

This just further adds to my point about being a nobody...

[Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by Shakezulah

I think we should have stricter gun laws. Not take them away, because then as one of the members said, we would have a HUGE problem on our hands. Stricter gun laws would help a little bit. Also raising the age limit. I think another member said that to. Pawn shops should have very detailed background checks. Anyway they said that in virginia it takes, what ten minutes to buy a gun? Thats horribly wrong. I agree with FableFreak more than Tsuyu, but Tsuyu made some very good points.

Anyway, I have a bit of advice. I follow it too.
"Its the quiet ones you have to watch out for."-Shakezulah

We've got two really quiet guys in my class - and I mean quiet. They don't say anything. Not even when the teachers ask them something. At most I've heard one of them said, no whisper a silent "No..." to a teacher when asked if he needed help

*shrugs*

This is where I thank Satan that those two can't possible be packing some serious firepower. True, they might carry knifes/some other crap, but without firearms 'school shootings' can't happen.