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Re: Kill Children
Old 10-08-2009   #106
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Re: Kill Children

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Refer to previous (post #12) post regarding socially constructed moral arguments. Stop using them.
Refer to this post telling you to STFU and get a life.

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You are full of ****. There is a reason that killing children, raping children, and otherwise being a curse upon mankind is considered more monstrous that anything else.

You don't kill kids because they're kids. Children. Helpless, weak, future of the species, and so on. Personally, I don't think you should kill adults, either, in real life, unless neccesary. In games, killing adults is acceptable because it's sometimes acceptable in real life. War, execution, you get the idea.

Children are not adults. If you kill or harm a child, quite frankly I'm of the opinion that you need to be executed. In a game, it's not such a great crime, no, but it's still ****ed up. Same as child porn that's drawn instead of photographed.

And you comparing us not wanting to have our video games feature slaughter of children to a suicidal cult is about the most asinine thing I've ever heard.
You should've read that and learnt to STFU. Only an idiot with no good reply to what I have said would tell me to stop using a moral argument. My argument wasn't even moral. It was saying that kid killing in games will never be accepted because they can't defend themselves. You need to learn to read idiot.

(un)godly hiroku you wanna say things like you just did then GTFO of this thread and go back to the mental asylum.

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Re: Kill Children
Old 10-08-2009   #107
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Re: Kill Children

yeah, killing a child is in every way possible morally wrong.
but fable is an RPG
that stands for ROLE PLAYING game

if you want to roleplay as someone who ravaged the country killing man, woman, and child why shouldn't you? it only adds another choice and consequence to the game....
and if your moral standards don't let you kill a child even in a virtual world, then don't.
 

Re: Kill Children
Old 10-08-2009   #108
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Anyone who wants to kill a child can go play Dragon Age.

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Re: Kill Children
Old 10-08-2009   #109
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Re: Kill Children

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Refer to this post telling you to STFU and get a life.



You should've read that and learnt to STFU. Only an idiot with no good reply to what I have said would tell me to stop using a moral argument. My argument wasn't even moral. It was saying that kid killing in games will never be accepted because they can't defend themselves. You need to learn to read idiot.

(un)godly hiroku you wanna say things like you just did then GTFO of this thread and go back to the mental asylum.
The insufferable zeal with which you speak should be tempered TWK. My apologies for overlooking your post; I assure you it was not by design.

If you read my post carefully, you can see that I am neither for nor against the killing of pixel children. The moral argument was to highlight that, yes, socially acceptable as it may be to kill adults, morally, killing an adult is just as reprehensible as killing a child. There is no sliding scale of morality.

As for confronting you, in my original post, when you made no moral arguments and merely said that the game would never sell... well I wasn't directing my feedback at you. I quoted another poster and was pointing out to them that if killing children is "...[M]orally sick...", then the moral standard must be applied to adults as well. Socially constructed norms (killing adults okay, etc) are not the same as moral principle as there are universal moral truths (Please don't confuse what I am saying with religious tenets). You would do well adding a little philosophical enlightenment to your being before you assume that I'm for the mass slaughter of pixel children. As I said before, I do not care if they remain in God mode or not, I was merely pointing out the flaws of a previous argument.

Let me see, what else did you say... ah, as for the asinine remark about people not wanting the death of pixel children in games compared to a cult, well you missed that figure of speech entirely. I was going for the "Big Brother" angle with this, and merely illustrating governments that begin to impose ever increasing levels of censorship and rules of subordination will eventually dictate how its populace can think, eat, sleep, dress, walk, talk until we end up with a nation from, my personal favorite, 1984. Some people believe we're already there... they're called Libertarians (American Gov. humor). (For the sake of being transparent, 1984 was a literary reference).

If you were referring to the comment where someone quoted you in saying that the game would never sell, then you did mention that "...[T]hen you are a sadistic freak with no morals." You see, the no morals part is what I honed in on. Again, your assumptions do not allow for the killing of pixel children (paralleling to reality), but as you said adults are different. This, is a social construction, and morality shouldn't be used in an argument based on the underlying social construction framework.

Again, truly sorry for missing your post. I'm not so much obtuse, though you put it much more colorfully, as I am unobservant at times. Just remember, unabashedly screaming at and insulting your opponent does not a valid point make.

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Re: Kill Children
Old 10-09-2009   #110
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^maybe not but it could be epicly better than the original, granted fable 2 wasent but theres going to be what 4-5 of them maybe more, with how things are going it will be a much greater game then the original...

but back on topic;
killing children is moraly wrong even if its a video game, the way you play a game represents alot about yourself. if you want to kill children then i think you gots a few mental problems.
it says nothing about you on one file i'm an angel on another i'm saintin
 

Re: Kill Children
Old 10-09-2009   #111
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^ I disagree. The way a person plays a video game is in no way indicative of how they operate or how there state of mind functions in the real world. Most play video games in order to escape the real world.

But going with your logic, then GTA IV where you can steal someones car and then proceed to shoot them, run them down and repeat should also be an indicator of those people and their "mental problems".

And, for those that would act out there fantasies in the real world would do it regardless of a video game or not. The problem today is that people are somehow sympathetic to the idea that game violence has a direct correlation to people actually committing violence, which is crap. People that have a predilection for violent activity just have an excuse as to why they're now not culpable for the crimes they commit..."it's the video game's fault for x,y,z..." which is bull.
 

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Old 10-10-2009   #112
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that would be so awesome, I do like how you can carry weapons in all towns now. They took them away from you in Bowerstone in Fable one, douches.
 

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Old 10-10-2009   #113
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Still spamming...

I personally think that this would be sick...

Or maybe it could work if you kill a child and then you get an instant message:

Child killer's will not be tolerated!

GAME OVER

Then all your files on your xbox get deleted XP
Or :you killed a child you sick bastard your console wil self destruct and set fire to your house you will never be loved and the mental hospital van is coming to put you in a nice sweater and a very soft room.
-_-
 

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Old 10-11-2009   #114
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WELL PPL DEAL WITH IT I CAN USE CAP OR WHATEVER I WANT AND HATE WHAT PPL SAYING LIKE KILL KIDS AND STUFF,
 

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Old 10-11-2009   #115
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WELL PPL DEAL WITH IT I CAN USE CAP OR WHATEVER I WANT AND HATE WHAT PPL SAYING LIKE KILL KIDS AND STUFF,
Sure, you can use caps lock all you want but no one will ever take what you say seriously.

So you can

A) Continue to abuse caps lock and be considered nothing more than a moron who pretty much everyone will want to ignore because your posts hurt their eyes

B) Not be moronic and post in a way that people will actually want to look.

(if you're confused about what the correct response is in this situation, it's response B)
 

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Old 10-11-2009   #116
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WELL PPL DEAL WITH IT I CAN USE CAP OR WHATEVER I WANT AND HATE WHAT PPL SAYING LIKE KILL KIDS AND STUFF,

actually you can't without being a complete jerk.
 

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Old 10-11-2009   #117
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I was mad that u could not kill kids in fable2. do u want this to be available in fable3?
Not Really o_O Killing children Is a little too gruesome. Plus, they would ban the game If you did. Some kids are a little mental and do what games do. >_>
 

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Old 10-11-2009   #118
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There's only one problem with that: what happens when you want to have a kid with your spouse? If it weren't for that, I'd support the idea. I just wouldn't like it if they took out that feature.
Again, this all has to do with it being taboo. Killing children is by itself so morally debased that (as I said) it would cause a political ****-storm. Every media outlet would jump at the chance to shock their audience and damn near every politician would jump on the "PROTECT THE PIXEL CHILDREN!" band wagon.

There are things you could do in this game which are morally horrifying. I could kill some kid's parents while they begged for their lives right in front of him. But the difference between that and just killing the children is that killing the kid alone is morally terrible, but every other abhorrent evil action requires a series of steps. No one is going to jump on the "PROTECT PIXEL TOWNS FROM BEING ECONOMICALLY CRIPPLED FROM CRIMES SUCH AS THEFT AND POSSIBLY MURDER!" band wagon.
 

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Old 10-11-2009   #119
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