A message to Goths [That's right! We even capitilize subCultures these days!]

[Arseface]

Conform with the Nonconformists!


Isn't that an oxymoron? I mean really, if you're trying to be different, don't be the same as all the other different people, be different!

I'm not knocking it, I mean if you're into wearing black and death and all that then more power to you, but if you're just trying to make a statement do something that no one else is doing.

/rant

[capt_moroni]

i try to be different by essentially...being myself. =-).
not point fingers at any forum members (or anyone for that matter)
but alot of people at least seem like they want to be something else. something glamorized for something other than maybe what they would really enjoy.
now anything i say will automatically point to myself also.
you obviously can't have a stance without following something, it's hard to be a complete individual because your views are shaped by outside events, therefore no matter what, you're following something. (interesting paradox, eh?)

i don't listen to led zeppelin b/c i'm into that kind scene. I listen to it because it fetchin' rocks. i also listen to jazz, coheed and cambria, panic at the disco, aerosmith, g love and the special sauce, and when i'm feeling froggy, i get romantic (not love songs, think beethoven, brahms, or schubert)
i look at the world of fashion, and i pick what i like and leave the rest.
i like to think of myself as a scrap book of society.

i take what i want, and leave the rest.
so i am something else, but only what i want to be?
i don't know. i'm philosophizing now (not really a word i believe, but it's in that song heroheroine [great song i might add]

everyone has a right to do what they want though.
that's an article of faith in my church!
we reserve the right to worship according to the dictation of our own concieince (mispelled to hell), and allow all men the same prvillege, let them worship (insert other actions here) how where and what they may.
but if you like coleslaw, then there's no hope for you. ;-)

also, i understand how beauty can be found in everything, and i love that about life.
but i'm curious, what could you personally find beautiful about death?
not that there isn't anything beautiful about it of course, i just like to hear what other people think. =-)
unless they like coleslaw, then i don't want to hear anymore about it.

[Father of Skorm]

*reads 1st bit of above* ooo! ooo! ooo! mememe! look at me! i'm just like you honest!!!! ok, bit of an exageration but i admit to being, at leat in part, hugely affected by what other ppl think and do. its what i live my life by.

incidentally, i also like Beethoven, when the mood arises. his 5th, 1st movement is my fav of his. also his most famous i think.

[capt_moroni]

i like his later work, where he bridged from Classical to Romanitc.

i love the passion in his much, the anger, the love, the drastic and urgency.

but i mean, we all basically just react to what other people do and say.
it's impossible to get around....unless you're a hermit.
or chuck norris.

[moonfever]

Originally Posted by Jack of Names

YouTube - Lols goff kidz makeup

Once again, please don't draw clown lines down your ****ing face.

What in the world, was that? He's going on and on.

[jwc2200]

Originally Posted by moonfever

What in the world, was that? He's going on and on.

It seems that is PE forum member 'Jack of Names' in the video. He is a bit upset by the young kid making silly looking lines on his face.

[moonfever]

Originally Posted by jwc2200

It seems that is PE forum member 'Jack of Names' in the video. He is a bit upset by the young kid making silly looking lines on his face.

I didn't see any kid. I give up, was just wondering.

[jwc2200]

Originally Posted by moonfever

I didn't see any kid. I give up, was just wondering.

The kid was in another video, he drew black make-up lines around his eyes and from the outside corners of his eyes down his cheeks a couple of inches and called it Goth.

[moonfever]

Originally Posted by jwc2200

The kid was in another video, he drew black make-up lines around his eyes and from the outside corners of his eyes down his cheeks a couple of inches and called it Goth.

Oh OK, little slow today. Thanks for explaining, that for me.

[Father of Skorm]

i used the link then got no sound and gave up. thats why i had nothing to say about the vid

[Rodeck]

The instructional video had much more "hardcore" music than yours. Throw some cheesy metal in the background and I'd totally agree with you. But for now...For shame. =(


In all seriousness, "Abraham" looks to be maybe 15. He's a poser trying to do something to shock his parents, lol.

And as far as being gothic goes...From my understanding, it's not about mainstream...It's about a deep sense of spirituality and dark romanticism...At least that's how I've always perceived "true" goths. They're just about the epitome of transcendentalists in that they reject the status quo and are completely independent from its control. They don't have to wear all black and have make up to be gothic... The "gothic" fashion part came about from punk as a way to shock people and, I suppose in a way, unite as a group.

[Lionheart]

If you dont want to be told you look like a clown take the red contacts blue skin and tank top and BIN THEM if you want to be different then dont tell other people how to be like you do it yourself

[Rodeck]

lolPunctuation.

[§ephiroxa§]

Subcultures suck. so don't labels.

[Rodeck]

so don't labels.

Freudian Slip...? =p