A message to Goths [That's right! We even capitilize subCultures these days!]

[Jack of Names]

YouTube - Lols goff kidz makeup

Once again, please don't draw clown lines down your ****ing face.

[Angel]

blimey, he don't half go on a bit...seven and half minutes to make a three second point...

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by Angel

blimey, he don't half go on a bit...seven and half minutes to make a three second point...

If I were to make a 30 second video saying "Hello! You look gay, you're not supposed to do that. Go kill yourself." then he'd never get the point.

[Finch]

To be honest, they both look like total clowns.

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by Finch

To be honest, they both look like total clowns.

Lol, I made the video.
It's a statement of opinion, I could say blacks look like total clowns because of their high concentration of pigment.

[Finch]

Originally Posted by Jack of Names

Lol, I made the video.
It's a statement of opinion, I could say blacks look like total clowns because of their high concentration of pigment.

OMG, I'm sorry Jack! But you were right about that makeup video. I apologize, I feel so bad right now.

I mean, you don't look bad, just alright. I'm not really used to seeing goths in my area so that's probably why.

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by Finch

OMG, I'm sorry Jack! But you were right about that makeup video. I apologize, I feel so bad right now.

I mean, you don't look bad, just alright. I'm not really used to seeing goths in my area so that's probably why.

Hah, no worries mate.
I get it all the time, that's part of what being a punk/goth is, you never know if somebody is going say "Oh my god you're so ****ing cool!" or "Oh God, Jump off the nearest building".



Also, I DID look almost like a clown that day.
With the hairdye, highlights, powder, eyeliner, eyeshadow, contacts and piercings.

[Finch]

I don't understand though... Is gothic like some sort of religion? I mean, I just think it's a bit odd to put on so much makeup. Wouldn't it damage your skin?

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by Finch

I don't understand though... Is gothic like some sort of religion? I mean, I just think it's a bit odd to put on so much makeup. Wouldn't it damage your skin?

No, It's similar to being punk.

I'll give you a short explanation of goths.

We find beauty in darkness, solitary and isolated places and even death.
We hate conforming with the mainstream.
We wear black clothes, piercings, dye our hair black and put white foundation on our faces.

It's a sub-culture.

[Angel]

What is the mainstream?

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by Angel

What is the mainstream?

Mainstream is the larger public, the masses, the big crowd.
Things that are or become 'mainstream' are the things that
currently sell the most and gain the most popularity.

[Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by Jack of Names

No, It's similar to being punk.

I'll give you a short explanation of goths.

We find beauty in darkness, solitary and isolated places and even death.
We hate conforming with the mainstream.
We wear black clothes, piercings, dye our hair black and put white foundation on our faces.

It's a sub-culture.

There's a helluva lot more to it. I wear black, got black hair and I love white skin(in a non white supremacist way) and the sun doesn't make me a golden bronze god but rather a fried shrimp, so I never tan or nothing and I look rather pale.

But I'm not goth. As you said, it's a short and rather incomplete explanation, and I just wanted to add that not everyone with black hair and clothes is goth.

About mainstream: As irony would have it, "Defy the mainstream!" has become somewhat mainstream in itself.

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by Tsuyu

There's a helluva lot more to it. I wear black, got black hair and I love white skin(in a non white supremacist way) and the sun doesn't make me a golden bronze god but rather a fried shrimp, so I never tan or nothing and I look rather pale.

But I'm not goth. As you said, it's a short and rather incomplete explanation, and I just wanted to add that not everyone with black hair and clothes is goth.

About mainstream: As irony would have it, "Defy the mainstream!" has become somewhat mainstream in itself.

Indeed, as Tsuyu just said, not all who wear black are goth.

Also, there has been much confusion as to the differences between Emos and Goths.


Here's a short explanation of Emos:

Emo stands for Emotional or Emotive and are quickly becoming a popular trend throughout London and NY.
While some have been known as suicidal, misunderstood kids who slit their wrists, these days anybody can be called Emo.
You just need to write poetry, be emotional, and more importantly, have hair that covers your eyes.

[Angel]

So hang on a minute - the mainstream is that which is currently the most popular? How does one quantify that, then? I mean, we seem to be made up entirely of subcultures anyway...I have no idea what the main one would be.

People have jack all to rebel against anyway these days - pretty much anything goes...

I'm not goth, as far as I know - I just REALLY like wearing corsets and dark makeup

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by Angel

So hang on a minute - the mainstream is that which is currently the most popular? How does one quantify that, then? I mean, we seem to be made up entirely of subcultures anyway...I have no idea what the main one would be.

People have jack all to rebel against anyway these days - pretty much anything goes...

I'm not goth, as far as I know - I just REALLY like wearing corsets and dark makeup

Basically the mainstream is the main crowd of people who have average interests.

For example the songs, ****ed with a knife, I cum blood, Hatchet to the Head, by Cannibal Corpse are not made for the mainstream of people.