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Non-gamers are "deprived"
Old 04-11-2008, 11:44 PM   #1
Dark Drakan
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Non-gamers are "deprived"

Finally some pro games news.

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We had to double check this to make sure we weren't reading it wrong. Newspaper The Guardian has published a piece defending video games, stating that children denied access to games are "deprived" of a "rich and magical experience". It's all gone a bit hippy-ish over here.

The opinion piece, penned by writer Naomi Alderman, calls the recent government report by Tanya Byron "eminently sensible", and even defends Rockstar and Grand Theft Auto.

"Dr Tanya Byron's eminently sensible report last month on children and new technology emphasized the many opportunities for fun and learning that games provide," says Alderman. "But the media coverage focused on the usual fears and worries.

"Byron said that we need to move away from talking about computer games 'causing harm'; in response, TV and newspapers showed stills from games with titles like Manhunt and God of War. Byron said children need to be 'empowered to keep themselves safe'; newspapers said computers and televisions should be kept in communal spaces in the home."

"The world of Grand Theft Auto does contain violence and misogyny; but then, so does The Godfather, or Goodfellas," the article continues. "GTA3 is set in a tough, dangerous world. Johnson is trying to clean up his neighbourhood. But as a dispossessed, orphaned young black man, he has no option but to re-form his neighbourhood gang to do so. The makers of this game, like the makers of any movie about gangland, can stand squarely behind the art they have created and say: this represents reality. If it offends you, don't criticise the art, but take action to improve the world around you."

The Guardian piece also puts some blame on parents themselves, calling on them - like the Byron report - to try and understand what their kids are playing.

"Clearly, these themes [in GTA] are not suitable for young children. But just as a responsible parent wouldn't hand their child a copy of American Psycho or sit them down in front of Marathon Man without any further discussion or comment, games can and should be part of the ongoing conversation between parents and children about the world."

"The gaming world isn't filled only with violence and depravity. In fact, it's mostly enchanting," the article continues. "Computer games can be works of art and literature - they're still developing. The stories they can tell, and the experiences they provide, are increasingly sophisticated and glorious. And that, of course, is the point."

"The world that today's 10-year-olds grow into will offer so many rich experiences via video games: the real neglect would be to deny our children the opportunity to understand and enjoy them."

We're going back to re-read this now. Did she definitely not say Bully should be banned?
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:55 PM   #2
Zingo
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Aw, that is so cute

Made a good evening even better! +Rep for the find, Drakan.
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Old 04-12-2008, 08:11 AM   #3
Solus
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What just happened?
Media supporting video games? So... Are pigs really going to fly?
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:08 AM   #4
Angel
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Where would the world be without the Guardian, eh? Knew there was a reason we have the left-wing

Why is it that it takes a paper to point out what we've all known for ages - good can come from gaming...
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Old 04-12-2008, 04:44 PM   #5
DJ D Mix
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I think it should be up to whose ever kid it is. I grew up playing Bloody Rage and Killer Instinct. I'm a good kid.
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Old 04-12-2008, 04:51 PM   #6
Rhadiel
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yay! finally some media supporting video games. what they anti game guys gotta see is that games DO gud in cases. and they dont cause harm, ive been playing violent games my whole life, i first played halo 1 when i was 7 or 8, back then ,it was considered a very violent game. now i play Gears CoD4 and H3, and im a perfectly good kid, maybe not so good in school atm, but u dont see me running around joining gangs and such. killing people at random
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Old 04-12-2008, 07:51 PM   #7
Goretex
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Now if we could only get an article like this about porno we'll be in buisness.
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:40 AM   #8
Father of Skorm
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"The world of Grand Theft Auto does contain violence and misogyny; but then, so does The Godfather, or Goodfellas," the article continues. "GTA3 is set in a tough, dangerous world. Johnson is trying to clean up his neighbourhood. But as a dispossessed, orphaned young black man, he has no option but to re-form his neighbourhood gang to do so. The makers of this game, like the makers of any movie about gangland, can stand squarely behind the art they have created and say: this represents reality. If it offends you, don't criticise the art, but take action to improve the world around you."

pretty sure there wasnt a black 'hero' until san andreas...
but otherwise, basically what iv bin tellin my mum 4 years!
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:02 AM   #9
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Good article. +rep
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:01 PM   #10
Dark Drakan
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"The world of Grand Theft Auto does contain violence and misogyny; but then, so does The Godfather, or Goodfellas," the article continues. "GTA3 is set in a tough, dangerous world. Johnson is trying to clean up his neighbourhood. But as a dispossessed, orphaned young black man, he has no option but to re-form his neighbourhood gang to do so. The makers of this game, like the makers of any movie about gangland, can stand squarely behind the art they have created and say: this represents reality. If it offends you, don't criticise the art, but take action to improve the world around you."

pretty sure there wasnt a black 'hero' until san andreas...
but otherwise, basically what iv bin tellin my mum 4 years!
Yeah i was thinking the same thing when i read it.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:55 PM   #11
suffering
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There is actually good media around the world.
And finally some sort of media understands that games is an artform!
I can support that paper any day! I learnt alot of history and such from games. Like the battle at Stalingrad from COD, people of significance during the crusades from AC.

Did you know the places and people (your main targets) are actually real? with the places i mean accurately made? Almost accurately. And the people died before or after the time it is in the game but not all information is accurate. their just saying "What if"
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