[GaEv]

In See the future the ruler looks like your character and Peter M has confirmed that the Fable 3 chartacter is the son/daughter of your character.

Now Fable 2 tells us the character of the next game is the child of the ruler and Fable 3 through Peter M has told us the ruler of Albion that comes directly before your Fable 3 character rises is a tyrant.

So there are three theories I have from this

1. Massive gaping plot hole
2. In the fifty years gone past your (Fable 2) character has indeed risen to power but for whatever reason (which will be explained in the course of the game has become a tyrant
3. The ruler in the vision shown to you in the spire is in fact your Fable 3 character and the baby is the grandchild, though that theory is a tad bit flawed to say the least.

or I could be missing something.

[Fabled Ravrn]

I'm thinking "See The Future" is a pretty good guess for "seeing the future" (Fable III), but I'm not sure you are a full adult. Dunno yet, but I'm thinking it starts in the Fable 2 timeline, then boosts ahead a few years.

Either way, I think I agree, but what's this about some glimpse in the Spire?

[GaEv]

In the second Fable 2 DLC (called "See the future") you are brought back to the Spire where Theresa shows you a vision of the future.

[Rheckameohs]

I like to believe that the tyrant ruler overthrew and possibly assassinated your Fable II hero, and that you're trying to reclaim your birthright throughout the first half of the game.

[Ryu_the_fox]

it would be wrong to have a pure good character to have become a tyrant all of sudden.

[Walker]

Originally Posted by Ryu_the_fox

it would be wrong to have a pure good character to have become a tyrant all of sudden.

Not neccesarily. It's fairly common in fiction to have tyrants who think their tyranny is for the best, plus enlightened despots who rule with absolute power but try to do the best for their people.

Depending on whether you agree with the way said tyrant or despot does things, what they do, and their motivations, you can see them as positive or negative.

I like TVtropes.org, so here's an example from there. Knight Templar, for a tyrant who rules cruelly in the name of the law or good, and for a tyrant who is nevertheless a good ruler of his nation, Lord Vetinari.

And yes, I do admit that there is a problem with the Lord Vetinari example, since no one in their right mind would overthrow him, but hopefully you get the idea.

You could also, for a historical example, look at the Greek origins of the term "tyrant" itself. Usually populist leaders raised up in times of crises who had an unfortunate tendency to become fairly oppressive and cling to power after whatever crises they were raised to deal with had passed. Or, even, Julius Caesar. Or Augustus.

Lots of real-world examples are less clearly "good," but still fit the pattern of being raised up and then seizing personal powers, even in the present day.

[Hal]

has anybody thought that rather than your fable 3 character being born 50 years after the fable 2, they are born about 25 years after it and are in their 20s when the game starts.

[Razorback]

Every tyrant who ever lived thought that he was doing the right thing. Hitler thought he was saving Europe. All the religious despots who commited torture and genocide thought they were doing right by God. Even the most selfish ****wipe kings who never did anything for anyone but themselves thought they were right to do so, since they were born into their position and, therefore, appointed to it by God. And a lot of people are just corrupted without realising it - the road to Hell being paved with good intentions, and all that.

As for the "plot hole" - while it would be interesting to have your Fable II character turn bad, I suspect it'll be a case of the father being overthrown, and the son rising up to fight the usurper. Have none of you ever read Hamlet?

[GaEv]

Originally Posted by Razorback

Every tyrant who ever lived thought that he was doing the right thing. Hitler thought he was saving Europe. All the religious despots who commited torture and genocide thought they were doing right by God. Even the most selfish ****wipe kings who never did anything for anyone but themselves thought they were right to do so, since they were born into their position and, therefore, appointed to it by God. And a lot of people are just corrupted without realising it - the road to Hell being paved with good intentions, and all that.

As for the "plot hole" - while it would be interesting to have your Fable II character turn bad, I suspect it'll be a case of the father being overthrown, and the son rising up to fight the usurper. Have none of you ever read Hamlet?

the hamlet theory is one that came to me after I posted this. And it makes the most sense.

[Walker]

Originally Posted by The White Knight

has anybody thought that rather than your fable 3 character being born 50 years after the fable 2, they are born about 25 years after it and are in their 20s when the game starts.

People have inched that way a time or two, but I don't like it. I LIKE being a kid for awhile. Makes me feel more connected to the people I meet then, and when I'm a teenager and so on.

[Hal]

Originally Posted by Walker

People have inched that way a time or two, but I don't like it. I LIKE being a kid for awhile. Makes me feel more connected to the people I meet then, and when I'm a teenager and so on.

Well I mean you begin as child and then like other fables it skips to being a teen. It dosen't make sense that the hero is born 50 years after fable II.

[GaEv]

Originally Posted by The White Knight

Well I mean you begin as child and then like other fables it skips to being a teen. It dosen't make sense that the hero is born 50 years after fable II.

It could be that it is 50 years after the beginning or middle of Fable 2. Or that the adult section of Fable 3 is 50 years after Fable 2 and there is still a child section only it is just 30 years later or something.

[Walker]

Originally Posted by The White Knight

Well I mean you begin as child and then like other fables it skips to being a teen. It dosen't make sense that the hero is born 50 years after fable II.

Why not? They never specify an age. Sure, you get gray and a bit wrinkly, but my dad was gray by the time he was forty, at the latest. Okay, maybe 45.

It's not THAT unrealistic that your hero still be virile/nubile fifty years on when you consider that they're big bad heroes, and probably distantly related to at least one immortal.

Or, hell, Lionhead likes killing off families. You could be an adopted orphan.

Originally Posted by GaEv

It could be that it is 50 years after the beginning or middle of Fable 2. Or that the adult section of Fable 3 is 50 years after Fable 2 and there is still a child section only it is just 30 years later or something.

That makes very little sense. Ordinarily, when people say "fifty years after" they don't mean "fifty years after the beginning." Or anything else. THey mean "fifty years after the end."

[GaEv]

True, I am stretching it a bit.

From thinking of the timeline I think chronologically your character would have to be in their thirties at the end of Fable 2 as it stands. Giving a rough guess on Fable 3 starting the game at age ten so the Fable 2 character would need to be in his seventies at the time of conception.

[Walker]

Originally Posted by GaEv

True, I am stretching it a bit.

From thinking of the timeline I think chronologically your character would have to be in their thirties at the end of Fable 2 as it stands. Giving a rough guess on Fable 3 starting the game at age ten so the Fable 2 character would need to be in his seventies at the time of conception.

Yeah, and who says that's too far-fetched for a could-plausibly-be-immortal Hero? Doesn't Theresa look like she could get knocked up? And she's over 500 years old.