Transportation

[Rhadiel]

Originally Posted by Hexadecimal

I never said trains wouldn't be cheap... I happen to think trains would be lame... but that has nothing to do with me freaking out and pointing to a textbook saying they didn't have them in our world so they can't have them there... I don't recall them having the ability to teleport using guild seals either, so the tech is obviously not the same there as it is here ... I just wouldn't like them cause it comes off as far too mundane, and that , for me, isn't what Fable is all about

yeah, Fable should be...well...Fabley, i think trains would be a waste space. and trains dont exactly reak of Fableness

Hero-" We must destroy Lucien's tower : THE SPIRE!, before its late"

Guildmaster- "Quick! Take the train!"

Hero - * Hops aboard train* " Your reign of terror is over Lucien!"
*train moves 5 MPH*

[Walker]

No, I wasn't saying trains were impossible or possible from those little factoids: I was saying that, from OUR history (since all I know about the Fable universe history is that guns seem to have developed to shocking levels from nothing that we know of in 500 years) there is nothing that dictates that trains come a long time after guns, which is what someone else said.

Hmmm... you know what, I just went back and read what I said. Sorry, I was just using our history as my only base to operate from because, well, it's my only base to operate from. I'm also pretty sure that the Fable development would follow the same general path as ours, if not the speed (because it would seem that they went faster).

And yes, we already had this discussion. I'm pretty much the only person who thinks trains would really be cool. I'm STILL arguing that they're plausible, though.

I would like to point out one last thing, though: a lot of the reasoning against trains seems to be the same as that which people had against guns, that they didn't fit, they were cheap, they were lame, whatever. And yes, some people still say that: but haven't some of you ended up changing your minds about those?

I don't see how anything is Un-Fable-y, outside of absurdities like spontaneous development of powered flight, alien invasion, full-fledged 21st century cars, nuclear power, and similar stupid crap.

[Hexadecimal]

Originally Posted by Walker

I would like to point out one last thing, though: a lot of the reasoning against trains seems to be the same as that which people had against guns, that they didn't fit, they were cheap, they were lame, whatever. And yes, some people still say that: but haven't some of you ended up changing your minds about those?

I don't see how anything is Un-Fable-y, outside of absurdities like spontaneous development of powered flight, alien invasion, full-fledged 21st century cars, nuclear power, and similar stupid crap.

I for one haven't changed my mind about anything.

if you had the ability to teleport anywhere you wished at a moment's notice, would you still take the train?
I wouldn't.
That's why it's lame and to me wouldn't feel like Fable.
It has nothing to do with whether the universe could have developed the technology, it has to do with why in the hell people who can whisk themselves from point A to point B would instead waste the time and the resources getting there on some rickety train...
how heroic is that? way to inspire the masses! you could have used your abilities to appear out of nowhere, but instead you used your gold to buy yourself a trip on the old 3:45...
you could have saved my family the instant **** started to go down, but instead you decided to take the train... oh, but you missed the last one of the day... oh well, I can make a new family
that's retarded

[Jester.]

Originally Posted by Hexadecimal

I for one haven't changed my mind about anything.

if you had the ability to teleport anywhere you wished at a moment's notice, would you still take the train?
I wouldn't.
That's why it's lame and to me wouldn't feel like Fable.
It has nothing to do with whether the universe could have developed the technology, it has to do with why in the hell people who can whisk themselves from point A to point B would instead waste the time and the resources getting there on some rickety train...
how heroic is that? way to inspire the masses! you could have used your abilities to appear out of nowhere, but instead you used your gold to buy yourself a trip on the old 3:45...
you could have saved my family the instant **** started to go down, but instead you decided to take the train... oh, but you missed the last one of the day... oh well, I can make a new family
that's retarded

ahahahaha

[sabre3993]

Hey what's up i'm new to the forums, so maybe i'll get a "warm welcome".

Originally Posted by Hexadecimal
I for one haven't changed my mind about anything.

if you had the ability to teleport anywhere you wished at a moment's notice, would you still take the train?
I wouldn't.
That's why it's lame and to me wouldn't feel like Fable.
It has nothing to do with whether the universe could have developed the technology, it has to do with why in the hell people who can whisk themselves from point A to point B would instead waste the time and the resources getting there on some rickety train...
how heroic is that? way to inspire the masses! you could have used your abilities to appear out of nowhere, but instead you used your gold to buy yourself a trip on the old 3:45...
you could have saved my family the instant **** started to go down, but instead you decided to take the train... oh, but you missed the last one of the day... oh well, I can make a new family
that's retarded

true, but it would be kinda cool to have side quests on the trains, like if your evil you could hijack the train, or if your good you could stop a high jacking from happening or somethin like that.

[Dark Drakan]

Originally Posted by sabre3993

true, but it would be kinda cool to have side quests on the trains, like if your evil you could hijack the train, or if your good you could stop a high jacking from happening or somethin like that.

Welcome to the forums

That idea sounds a little to wild west style for my liking to be honest.

[Walker]

Originally Posted by Hexadecimal

I for one haven't changed my mind about anything.

if you had the ability to teleport anywhere you wished at a moment's notice, would you still take the train?
I wouldn't.
That's why it's lame and to me wouldn't feel like Fable.
It has nothing to do with whether the universe could have developed the technology, it has to do with why in the hell people who can whisk themselves from point A to point B would instead waste the time and the resources getting there on some rickety train...
how heroic is that? way to inspire the masses! you could have used your abilities to appear out of nowhere, but instead you used your gold to buy yourself a trip on the old 3:45...
you could have saved my family the instant **** started to go down, but instead you decided to take the train... oh, but you missed the last one of the day... oh well, I can make a new family
that's retarded

Oh? You still don't like the guns idea? Damn, there's my analogy right out the window.

And, allow me to point something out: WHEN was the last time you saw a trader, villager, Hero's Guild Apprentice, or indeed anyone but Heroes and Bodyguards use a Cullis Gate, let alone a teleporter? HMMMM?

My point is that, A) Trains are cool, B) There are people in the Fable world aside from the Hero and other main characters, and C) There could be some interesting train quests, or just the ability to regain mana, or sleep (regain mana and health), or trade while you travel, without stopping to do whatever you need to.

The train would also have even more purpose if, as some people have surmised and/or hoped, there is no teleportation in Fable 2. Though yes, I do want teleportation.

[Hexadecimal]

Originally Posted by Walker

Oh? You still don't like the guns idea? Damn, there's my analogy right out the window.

when the hell did I say that? I said I haven't changed my mind on anything. Because I haven't.

Originally Posted by Walker

And, allow me to point something out: WHEN was the last time you saw a trader, villager, Hero's Guild Apprentice, or indeed anyone but Heroes and Bodyguards use a Cullis Gate, let alone a teleporter? HMMMM?

when was the last time you played the game as someone other than the Hero, like a trader or a villager? HMMMM?
I'm playing the game to be the hero and I don't give a flying **** what the local rubes want to get up to in their spare time. there's a reason why I'm the Hero and they're not: I can do things they cannot... I can teleport to the danger and nip it in the bud, whilst they idle their time away on a train...
I also don't recall the last time a trader or villager defeated Jack of Blades, but that doesn't mean I had to put my thumb up my butt when the the battle came just cause none of the other boys are doing it

Originally Posted by Walker

My point is that, A) Trains are cool,

that's your opinion

Originally Posted by Walker

[B) There are people in the Fable world aside from the Hero and other main characters,

and I shant be playing as any of them...

Originally Posted by Walker

and C) There could be some interesting train quests, or just the ability to regain mana, or sleep (regain mana and health), or trade while you travel, without stopping to do whatever you need to.

there may be ways to create interesting side quests, but far it will be far harder for them to explain to me what the hell I'm doing riding the train in the first place

[Walker]

Sigh... obstinate. So, so, obstinate. You know what? I'm just going to stop having this argument... okay, no I'm not, but I will restrict myself to answering just one of your comments:

Originally Posted by Hexadecimal

there may be ways to create interesting side quests, but far it will be far harder for them to explain to me what the hell I'm doing riding the train in the first place

You're not, as I could have sworn Molyneaux had said, a Hero in this game as in "Member of the Guild of Heroes." So where did you get the nifty little Guild Seal that seems to be what lets Heroes and Bodyguards teleport? And, if you use Cullis Gates, who says that there will be one near all the modern-day towns you go to? And if you do get a Guild Seal or the equivalent, then you still can't teleport to places where there aren't Cullis Gates unless you just teleported away from there, so you'll need to walk to some places... or, perhaps, take the quicker route of hopping on the train instead of running there.