Weapon Ideas

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by Caboose

i wish there would be revolvers but i guess that's not from the same time period though.....

I hate the idea of a revolver, especially in this kind of game.
It would destroy the entire plot!

[Walker]

Originally Posted by Jack of Names

I hate the idea of a revolver, especially in this kind of game.
It would destroy the entire plot!

Um, what? What are you taling about? How would it destroy the plot?

Originally Posted by Killjoy

I would Like to see in the game is a rifle with a katana blade at the end of it so it could be used as both katana and a gun

Yes, it's called a bayonet. I want bayonets, too.

Originally Posted by Jack0Blades

from what i have seen, the basic rifles will be basic matchlock in design, but will have the reloading system like those old guns where you feed in a bullet and pull back the lever to load it to the chamber. It'll be about as quick as the crossbows in Fable 1 for the averagely "statsd" hero

I don't think so. For one thing, those weapons (ALL of them, not just some) look nothing like matchlocks-- there's no big huge match burning in any of the screens I've seen. They look kind of like flintlocks, but they (the one we saw) reload entirely too fast. There were repeating rifles that were flintlocks (I think but I'm not sure, they may have contained their own ignition in the cartridge instead). And although matchlocks don't have much over crossbows; flintlocks are a little faster, and what you're describing are a LOT faster. Though I also don't remember the term for it. Bolt-action rifle, I think. And they're faster, WAY faster than any crossbow.

And revolvers are iffy. They don;t look as if they'd be too out of place with a lot of the weapons we've seen; but they do look out of place with others.

One of the problems is that we've seen a lot of different types of guns, with wildly different apparent reload times, going from what seems to be their era.

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by Walker

Um, what? What are you taling about? How would it destroy the plot?

Having a revolver gun in this game would have several advantages compared to other weapons and virtually no disadvantages.
Also as this game is set around the middle 1600s it would ruin the theme.

It was a reply to a guy who suggested putting in a revolver.

[NateMio]

Barstols *_* x'D

[moonfever]

Hmm, I love the idea of a gun, to shoot someone in the distance. Can't wait to try it. I love new things that are added.

[Jack0Blades]

Originally Posted by Jack of Names

It was a reply to a guy who suggested putting in a revolver.

But there will be revolvers...it's on the game cover lol

[gdude987654321]

the reload and firing times will be changed on how muchj experience you put into your gun fighting skills... im not going to go get the link but theres a fairly recent interview with PM about how your rate of fire will increase if you devote your experience towards gun fighting... i can only assume that it will also affect reloading time as well... while that may not make sense historically neither does magic, talking demon doors, magical masks with evil souls in them, or lots of other things in fable... if your looking for a historically acurate realistic game fable 2 is not for you

[Caboose]

I'm Not talking about A six-shot revolver i'm talking about the older 3-shots that were around with the fixed barrel which only lets you put in one bullet at a time not get all 3 and ram 'em in!

Also the game's timeline is set around the era of the higwaymen this could range from the 1000's to the 1800's! there is no reason to believe that higwaymen didn't have revolvers because they were usually on horseback and called "knights of the road" and using a musket isn't too easy on horseback!

Also revolver's were in use as early as the 1600's!

[Walker]

Originally Posted by Jack of Names

Having a revolver gun in this game would have several advantages compared to other weapons and virtually no disadvantages.
Also as this game is set around the middle 1600s it would ruin the theme.

It was a reply to a guy who suggested putting in a revolver.

No, it's not set around the middle of the 17th century: it's set in a magical semi-alternate universe with a wildly different set of laws and nature. There is nothing to say that their tech developed at the same speed or in the same way; especially not when there's the Will to twist everything up.

And there are disadvantages. Say it's a six-shot. BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!. Crap, I'm out of ammo. Now I have to flip this thing open and shove a tiny little round into each of these cylinders (or just one, but that means it's harder to be sure you're actually going to have a round ready when you close it. Meanwhile, you're getting menaced by the remaining large, angry things with swords or guns or stingers or massive rocky fists.

And sure, they won't neccesarily (probably won't) go with realistic reload mechanics, since it doesn't look like they are from the videos we've seen, but there are other ways to reduce the efficiency of one weapon over another.

Originally Posted by Caboose

Also revolver's were in use as early as the 1600's!

According to what? In everything I've read the 17th century was still arquebuses and wheelocks. True, it is a span of a hundred years and this was in the early 17th, but I still am not sure that revolvers were used that early.

(Edit: Going from Wikipedia, the first example is a revolving arquebus from the late 16th, but it took till the 18th for them to really have any use. They weren't all that effective/useful before.

EDIT2: And waitaminute, that one was so big it's often cited as the first machine gun. Tripod-mounted and operated by a hand crank does not make me think revolver. First actual revolver was early 19th.)

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by Jack0Blades

But there will be revolvers...it's on the game cover lol

I was getting confused and thinking about a modern revolver.

[Walker]

Originally Posted by Jack0Blades

But there will be revolvers...it's on the game cover lol

Sorry, I didn't notice your post. HUH? [goes to look for game cover image]

I have returned! The one cover I saw... it didn't look much like a revolver to me, but it could be.

[moonfever]

They have talked of augs, perhaps for guns, and stuff.

[Jack of Names]

Originally Posted by moonfever

They have talked of augs, perhaps for guns, and stuff.

Yes, apparently it will be possible to augument your clothes as well.