Why Peter Molyneux Thinks Other RPG Games Are ****

[Albion Knight]

Oh man Fable 2 is just sounding better and better. I am so dieing to play it. If the combat is as good as it sounds Peter Molyneux will be justified in saying that all other RPG combat is rubbish

[Dark Drakan]

Originally Posted by Albion Knight

Oh man Fable 2 is just sounding better and better. I am so dieing to play it. If the combat is as good as it sounds Peter Molyneux will be justified in saying that all other RPG combat is rubbish

Just a shame that Fables combat was so basic as it was just a button bash system for the most part

[Albion Knight]

Originally Posted by Dark Drakan

Just a shame that Fables combat was so basic as it was just a button bash system for the most part

Yeah, I think he's including Fable in the "All RPG's combat is rubbish" comment. I am so looking forward to this game!!!!

[Ishrin]

Co-Sign Albion Knight, I really hope he lives up to his words THIS TIME. Although Fable 1 was the **** XDD

[Frostmourne]

Originally Posted by Seigfreid

Button mash in Oblivion? Drakan's right, if you even try to button mash, which I've done many times out of fustration(damned goblins get on my nerves) then you'll get your *** handed to you on a dwarven platter.

And allow me to explain why. Its becuase the fact that in Oblivion, by blocking you can counter an enemy's attack and cuase the to fluster. If you try to go "psycho crazy sword master" on say a goblin. They'll easily block your attack and then strike back about 20 times in return. This kinda thing is especially nasty against bandits who are carrying around a dwarven warhammer; you can watch that health of yours go bye-bye.

Now as in Fable, there is still knock-back, but not as effective. Though, the enemy can still get a few good hits on you before you recover.

Hmm...can't really understand, for my friend Jack beat it with pretty dumbass button mashing. Does that mean Oblivion is a bad game? No. It's just like Fable 2, you hand the combat YOUR way.

Although Peter M might not have told the truth about most of his dreams and things to put in Fable 1, he has really good ideas! I mean, I love Fable 2 so far above every other RPG solely for its unique and innovative viewpoint. We'll just have to see.

I aggree that there weren't that many combos in Oblivion. But hey, a few slashes and spells, no harm

[Seigfreid]

Ok...I'm confused now. Are you sure your reading the right post? I don't think I said anything about Oblivion being a bad game or it having not that many combos or something. I never said you couldn't beat the games by button mashing, it just makes it a little more complicated. Anything else I can't think...me am not...BIRDS!

[-Ravan-]

I get along with most the Combat systems of games. I do hope he delivers on the environment part, one of the only games I've seen that was Blood Rayne 2. As you could use a chain to throw a victim into various things in the room, i.e Sharp spike, Furnace, and varying Machinery that was still in operation till a body entered the fray. The other thing was that KotOR although a great game i felt was let down to the combat. The only game i've seen to massively achieve what PM is after in a role play is Jade Empire, but even that had faults.

[Dark Drakan]

Originally Posted by -Ravan-

The other thing was that KotOR although a great game i felt was let down to the combat.

I actually quite liked the combat once you had got your head around it, i think real time action based combat wouldnt have fit that game and their system was quite good.

[-Ravan-]

I would have like the Jade Empire idea. I think it would have helped it a little especially in Lightsabre Combat. But obviously it didn't go that way, I'm not saying it's not good how it is it's fantastic, but i felt a little let down.

[Dark Drakan]

Originally Posted by -Ravan-

I would have like the Jade Empire idea. I think it would have helped it a little especially in Lightsabre Combat. But obviously it didn't go that way, I'm not saying it's not good how it is it's fantastic, but i felt a little let down.

Jade Empire was more an action RPG though, KotOR was all about the choices, story and dialog etc and paths you could take not about pushing fast paced combat into your face. I do see what your saying but as the style of RPG it was i dont think Jade Empire style combat would have fit with it.

[Hexadecimal]

Originally Posted by Dark Drakan

Jade Empire was more an action RPG though, KotOR was all about the choices, story and dialog etc and paths you could take not about pushing fast paced combat into your face. I do see what your saying but as the style of RPG it was i dont think Jade Empire style combat would have fit with it.

well, to be fair, that's what Jade Empire was about too...

KotOR had far more variations in terms of combat, from weapons, to variations with each weapon, plus a host of different Force powers that just would have been far too awkward to have to hotkey for each battle and would have resulted in you having to leave out certain moves once a battle began, or having to leave in the middle of it, detracting from the real time appeal of the latter system and leaving you with the same issue of the turn based system you started with...
I would say that KotOR was more focused on combat than Jade Empire was... but I do agree that Jade Empire's system would not have worked as well in KotOR...

[-Ravan-]

We'll never know lol, as it'll never happen. Just my Opinion. But theres good and bad everywhere i prefer the good.